| City, State, Country |
| How'd you find us? |
| Surname spelling(s) |
| February 8, 2011 at 10:45pm |
| Sergio Kyriakis |
| (facebook) |
| Ciriacks - Kyriakis |
Can I place your query in our http://guestbook.cyriac-fhp.com/ ?
(Sergio subsequently emailed two kyriakis.m4a sound files with the greek and USA english pronunciation - searching for a way to convert them to uploadable kyriakis.wav files is in progress.)
| Tuesday, January 11, 2011 |
| Elmer F. Ciriack Jr. |
| Dallas, Texas |
| Legacy.com guestbook |
| Ciriack |
Ben Ciriacks, Wisconsin Branch
http://Ben.Ciriacks.com
(We have yet to find a connection between the New England Ciriack and the
rest of us Ciriacks, Cyriackes, Cyriacks, Cyriaks, et al from the Bremen
area.)
| September 30, 2010 |
| Ciriackes spelling |
| Etelsen, Germany to London, England |
| ?Yahoo Groups? |
| www.Cyriac-FHP.com/Ciriackes.htm |
| Ciriackes Cyriacks |
| Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 3:45 PM |
| Chiriaco Summit |
| Chiriaco Summit, California |
| email inquiry from Cyriac-FHP |
| www.chiriacosummit.com |
| Chiriaco [Shure-ache-oh] (spelling & places pages) |
Thank you for your email [of Oct. 30. 2009] including the link to your family history project, and I'm sorry that it's taken me so long to respond. Your message went into a spam folder and since I transferred my email files to another computer, I just found it.
I'm forwarding your message to my mother, ..., in case she would like to correspond with you.
Her father, Joseph L. Chiriaco, started our family business and founded the small community here at Chiriaco Summit in 1933. He was born in Florence, AL ... His parents were from Calabria, Italy. We have lots of Chiriaco relatives, and there are different pronunciations even among this branch of the family. Grandpa Joe always said it was "Sure-ache-oh" [Shure-ache-oh], so that's the way we pronounce it today.
... My grandfather ... & Grandma Ruth loved to sit in the Coffee Shop and visit with folks ...
Best of luck to you, and thanks for sharing your research.
Heather Garcia
P.S.
My grandpa thought that his way of pronunciation sounded more "American". He would be so tickled about your research tracing the Greek connection. He often told a funny story about his supposed grecian ancestry!
| July 1, 2008 through July 27, 2009 |
| (private - no authorization to place here received) |
| Cirak/Denesfa, Hungary |
| Cyriacus de Serna page (in a new window) |
| Cirák Cirak Ciraki Czirák Czirak Cziráky Cziraky Kyriakos Kyriakou Zyrak Zyriacus |
| Thu, Mar 5, 2009 |
| kurt |
| Verden, Bremen, Germany |
| Buckley Cyriacks |
| Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 8:00 AM |
| Jürgen (Juergen) Cyriacks |
| browsing |
| Achim, Germany |
| jurgen-cyriacks-heizung-sanitar |
| Cyriacks |
Jürgen Cyriacks
Bruchweg 1
D 28832 Achim
juergen-c@t-online.de
Ben Ciriacks translation: Found this website while browsing on my family name. Why doesn't it show my name? Please respond.
Translation aided by the following:
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_txt I am with browse my to families named on these addy come. who it does not read white I? Perhaps do I get an answer?
http://ets.freetranslation.com/ I am browse come in that my family by the name of on this addy. Who does it not read show I? Do much oak I get yes an answer?
http://translation2.paralink.com/lowres.asp I am with rummage of mine familien called on this addy come. who reads they do not point I? I get Vieleicht antwort?
See a 25 Oct 2003 guestbook entry at Juergen Cyriacks.
| Aug 4, 2008 6:18 PM |
| Dan Condon |
| Bugga C's Home Page |
| Cyriacks |
Good Luck, Dan
- - -
Here's the Ben Ciriacks's original email request sent 12:21 pm 8/4/08:
Just found your "Peter the Great" et al movie dogs web site Saturday and the link back to the legal summaries referenced to my page regarding the Fred & Hermann Cyriacks brothers.
(The Hollywood.Fred.Cyriac-FHP.com link may not always work - it tested okay just now and is safe to continue using.)
| I'd love to be able to use a smaller, tweaked version of the two photos showing "Peter the Great" within the legal and other text at my site. Attached is the tweaked version (via Irfanview at 60%) of the two photos at your web site that I'd like to use (filename ptg1924&5.jpg) - the picture will be linked back to your site wherever it appears on my site. | ![]() (Click the picture to go to the web site containing the much larger 'Movie Poster' originals.) |
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I'm also searching out the "Peter" book by Clara Foglesong (1946) referenced at your site to discover any more information about Peter and Fred's fatal confrontation. Her name didn't come up on Google.
Fred's family has yet to be found in the Bremen area ... - Fred was said to have been a very strident member (of the Nazi Party) with all the paraphernalia and possibly holding meetings at his mansion but none of that has been proven or substantiated by photes or written evidence so it doesn't appear at our Cyriac Family History Project site, yet.
Thanks for your web site and sharing your valuable trove of information with the rest of us.
Ben Ciriacks
| Jan 11 & Jan 8, 2011 & Jul 25, 2008 |
| Diana Wright |
| Seattle |
| Ciriaco, Cyriac, Cyriaco, Cyriacus, Cyriaque, Kuriakos, Kyriacus |
His name was Cyriaco Pizzicoli, so Cyriaco was named for the patron saint of Ancona, and the family name was Pizzicoli.
You know that in Greek, the name refers to Sunday, or "the Lord's Day." [Lord or sir is Kyrios.] The same way that in Italian, Sunday is Domenico.
DW
* * * Ben Ciriacks response on 1/12/2011:
Thanks for doing the colored picture - I'll update the just uploaded 'little' version' of it when the wikmedia page is downloadable.
Am glad you have such an interest in Cyriaco and look forward to more interesting and valuable intelligence you discover about him - there is no doubt that historians have underappreciated his significance to all of us.
From what I've seen, having two or more names, especially among prominent families, signifies the recognition of other family names in one's genealogy - much like kings with dozens of such names and roman emperors who may have begun the process.
It may be just a coincidence that his name and the saint's name were the same. I'd love to see evidence that he was really named after the patron saint. (The patron saint was supposed to be a jew who converted and obtained the Cyriacus name as an honorific coincident with his becoming Bishop of Ancona back before there were Cardinals. The real and primary Cyriacus/Kyriakou was the saint of Rome who was martyred around 304 and who may have been a friend of Diocletian - very little proof about anything about him exists but there are 400+ churches in Germany dedicated to him.)
The Kyriakou name appears before the modern "Sunday" came into popular usage and is more likely associated with the master, lord or other connotation - it may have been in existance in Antioch around 44 AD but more likely was already a popular family name before that. There are just too many Kyriakou's in the world for it to have begun only in the first century.
Have a good time in San Antonio - I was there for the first time in mid-October for a http://CoAlumni.jamrent.org college reunion - most tourist friendly town I've ever seen. Seniors ride the busses free on weekends and at reduced fares otherwise - still have my 5 year picture ID the downtown (2 blocks from the Druary Plaza Hotel) Via Transit office isssued to me for free in less than 5 minutes.
Alamo and its volunteers is another great experience - they really treat everyone great.
I'd love to have the time to study all the works or references to him that show his various spellings of the family name - it may not have been his family name, but I'm positive he was as curious about its origins as I am. (The Kyriakou family of Greece was probably as large and influential in his time as it is now but in the typcially subdued way that appears charasteristic of one of the traits of our 2,000 year name/family history.)
| 7/25/2008: CYRIACO OF ANCONA 1391 -1452 (Diana's web site) |
| Oct 29, 2007 ~ Jun 14, 2011 |
| George Eliason |
| Lebanon, Maine USA |
| generationantichrist.wordpress.com/ |
| Ciriacas Desposyni Kyriakos |
Sure, but please indicate that this is all conjecture until DNA testing proves otherwise. I don't think it's that big of a deal but do recognize that there are forces out there helping me in my research - but I figure those forces would help anyone who cares enough to attend to them.
The more important consideration to me is the nature of a surname and how it changes and spreads over time - ours being one of the more significant in western culture. The orientals have much more significant genealogies that put ours to shame. I am reading your book - more religion than I've read in four decades - am about 25% into it. You are addressing an audience I don't have much contact with and I hope they read it and help you get that discussion going.
- - - 6/14/11
Ben
Here is how I want to introduce your family, work and site. ...
Kyriakos - Living Kin of the Lord and the ApostlesBy GH Eliason There is no better way to debunk myth or even fiction than to provide a truth. The myth of a "DaVinci Code" family of Jesus has been circulating since the time of the gnostics and can be put to rest, and Dan Browns' work of fiction labeled as just that fiction. Historically Mary Magdelane did marry marry "a Jesus", Jesus Justus of Rome who was a cousin of our Saviour and His brothers. The Desposyni (kin of the Lord) are the families of our Lord's brothers, sisters, and cousins. At the earliest times of the faith these families were set over the churches as governors (bishops), designated by the Apostles to keep legitimate rule and justice among the Christian peoples. Shown here is a little of that information showing the name changes by country and region and links to much more. The compiler of this information is by descent from the Roman Desposini families. He has graciously allowed me to link to his work which speaks for itself, has been carefully documented over the space of 40 years and is ongoing. It is also his desire that people are introduced to these histories and their source documents. When I was researching the Kyriakos family in history for my book it had been my intent to show it through the 8th century. When I came across his work and vetted it, I deleted the references from my book. Ben Ciriacs' work should be the authorative source. If our God could bring these who are historically the most hunted families through time until today He can and will see us through till His coming. The greatest buster of myth is a living proof. [ See the GENESIS chart (surname variations/evolution/worldwide distribution) that is kept updated at our Legend Page. ] Links:
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- - - 5/19/11
Ben
Here is the copy of the book. ...
George
2 attachments
- - - 5/6/11 via LinkedIn connection
... With regard to the book it is now titled "The Generations of Antichrist; An Argument for the Sake of Heaven."
It is available at Amazon, Barnes and Noble, Borders, etc. [ Alibris - ISBN 978-1-4327-6550-7 - Outskirts Press, Inc., Denver, Colorado, Copyright © 2011, G H Eliason, v2.0 ]
I think it will be the best religious history thats never read lol.
When I came across your work and vetted it a little bit, I cut out sections about your family history from the book because of your writing. Your history covered those areas in spades. I really thought you were publishing.
This is a link to my blog concerning that material;
http://generationantichrist.wordpress.com/
I would certainly like to link your site to it but check it out a little first and decide if its an appropriate request.
...
always best regards
George
- - - 3/11 ~ 3/16/11 LinkedIn contact and connections
- - -8/13/09 response to the creation of the Uncle Jesus web page
- - - 7/17/2009: (All of the information received so far,
along with separate documentation derived from Wikipedia, Google and other
sources justifies the creation of the separate Uncle-Jesus web page in order to organize all this
ASTOUNDING information into one centralized location.)
- - - 7/13/2009: Ben Ciriacks response to prior year email:
subject Re: Cyriac-FHP guestbook submission
Please send me the information regarding Publisher, ISBN number (if
issued), etc. for your book. The first reference to it will be in the
Uncle Jessus (original email had
another file which has become obsolete since then) file regarding the
possible appearance of the greek
kypiako (see the web page for the greek alphabet
spelling) coincident with the use of
CHI-RHO (local discussion page) to represent Christ by
the earliest Greek Christians. That reference will be on the web page
the day after tomorrow as as soon as I get home from the library with some
more references and pictures to be included and referenced.
We are still looking for the earliest appearance of KYPIAKO (or similar spellings) before the one we already know about in the middle to late 3rd century in Rome.
In order to lend credence to the KYRIAKOS as a 'family name'
in your book, we are also looking for ANY OTHER Greeks with that family name
anywhere in the world during or before the 1st century. I do not see
why it could not also have been an adjunct term used by the Greek followers
of CHI-RHO - it could have been a secular way of identifying
themselves and equated to the "supposed" Aramaic CHRISTIANOI
referenced along with it in your book. In other words, in aramaic (and
latin or other languages) they were referenced as CHRISTIANOI
but in greek were referenced as KYPIAKO, from whence the KYRIAKOS (in Latin and others) comes.
- - - 8/20/08 second email:
Mr. Ciriac,
I wrote a few months ago because I was writing a book concerning in part, what is apparently your early family history. I wanted to include some of your research. I decided against such use of quoted work because of the nature of the book in order to respect your family's privacy. It would be ignorant of my to do anything else. At any rate I have enclosed the book in its current raw form and just wish to thank you for your research with regard to the early church. I wish you the best sir.
Regards
George
- - - 10/30/07 follow-up:
I forgot to mention chapter 11 of that PDF I sent contains the 1st
mention of Kyriakos and who they were. This will bring it
through the 3rd century and into Europe Asia etc
- - - 10/29/07 first email:
COMMENTS: Mr. Ciriacks,
There are complete genealogies of your family name. It is not an alternate word used for Christian. There was only one family that was given that name in the 1st and 2nd century. I am writing a book on their story. If you belong to that family you have a lot to be in awe about. The appellation "Belonging to the Lord" went to the Desposyni or Royalty. They were the families of James the Just, Jude, Simeon, Jose, Joseph. These and their families only held that name so they could be found. The genealogy I enclosed is referenced by the Davidic families searching their trees. I found it helpful in my research.
Respectfully
George Eliason
(attached .pdf file)
| Sunday, September 30, 2007 |
| Cyriac Kandoth |
| Google search (you're on top of the list!) |
| Cochin/Kerala/India |
| kandoth.blogspot.com |
| Cyriac and Syriac |
But I've never seen other examples of people being named after languages. What are your clues on the relation between the Cyriac name and the Syriac script?
Thanks and regards,
Cyriac
http://kandoth.blogspot.com
--
Cyriac Kandoth
Computer Science and Engineering
University of Missouri - Rolla
[ 10/1/07 Ben Ciriacks reply:  Cyriac and Syriac are
coincidental pronunciations of completely different entities so far as I'm
aware. I suspect that the incidences of the first and/or last name
Cyriac in India and the Far East are associated with Christians as opposed
to Hindus, Buddhists, etc. The Cyriac as a Christian name goes back to
the saints of the Roman Church martyred in conjunction with the Final Great
Persecution of Diocletian from around 303 to 310 - one to a young child dashed
to death upon the steps in front of his mother after refusing to
renounce Christianity and the more popular in Europe to an older man who
may have been a close friend of Diocletian from a similarly wealthy family
who was beheaded (with 10,000 other Christian slaves) when the killing phase
of the last persecution began in earnest in 304.
Those names are predated by the Greek name Kyriac or Kyriaco or Kyriacou/Kyriakou which may have predated Christianity or may have been how the term "Christian" was said in the ancient Greek language - that mystery is one that a scholar in ancient Greek and its history will have to determine or at least search out.
Thanks for the inquiry - I'll be posting it and this reply to the website tomorrow or the next day.
Ben Ciriacks ]
| March 05 & 12, 2007 |
| Marina Ciriaco (Cyriaco) Mosella |
| (internet search) |
| Apucarana/parana/Brazil |
| Cyriaco, Ciriaco |
[3/12/07] I've promised myself to write a book like yours about my family history. Still I know very little:
I see you later.
| Monday, February 26, 2007 5:46 AM |
| Guy Houghton |
| England |
| Cyriax |
| Tue 29 Aug 2006 06:39:09 |
| Christoper Cyiark |
| www.ask.com |
| Houston/ Texas/ United States |
| Cyiark |
REPLY: According to a local Cyiark (who was my realtor for a failed home sale a couple years ago), which is pronounced the same as my surname but without the ending 's' (seer-e-ack), the name comes from Cyriaque (which got changed to Cyriak and then to Cyiark in Louisiana or such). Although there are many Cyriaque appearing in Africa, including many world ranking atheletes, we think that variation of the spelling originated in France but have no proof of that or even if it did originate (the spelling, that is) in Africa.
The spelling is one of the variations of the Cyriacus or Kyriacou surname for which the web site was created.
How do you pronounce your surname? What information regarding your genealogy are you willing to share?
| Sat 13 Aug 2005 09:08:35 |
| Celia McKenzie |
| researching Brodersen name |
| Vimy, Alberta, Canada |
| Brodersen Madsen |
1/7/2011 update: (nee Hansen) changed to (nee Madsen) and
new email address reflected.
guestbook ( 1 2 3 4 names) Home (Secular & Christian)
Website link/location/URL: http://Guestbook.Cyriac-FHP.com or http://www.Cyriac-FHP.com/guestbk.htm or http://www.Jamrent.com/c/guestbk.htm